الاف
والياء البداية والنهاية
Holy_bible_1
الجزء الخامس للرد علي شبهة ان الالف والياء البداية والنهاية الاول والاخر مضافه لسفر الرؤيا
الشبهة
يقول البعض ان كلمة الالف والياء , الاول والاخر , البداية والنهاية التي تثبة الوهية السيد المسيح في سفر الرؤيا لم يقلها السيد المسيح و ليس لها اصل ومضافة للانجيل حديثا ويستشهدون بالمخطوط السنائية والفاتيكانية والاسكندرية
الرد
5) سفر رؤيا يوحنا اللاهوتي 21: 6
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ثُمَّ قَالَ لِي: «قَدْ تَمَّ! أَنَا هُوَ الأَلِفُ وَالْيَاءُ، الْبِدَايَةُ وَالنِّهَايَةُ. أَنَا أُعْطِي الْعَطْشَانَ مِنْ يَنْبُوعِ مَاءِ الْحَيَاةِ مَجَّانًا. |
التراجم العربي
فانديك
6 ثُمَّ قَالَ لِي: «قَدْ تَمَّ! أَنَا هُوَ الأَلِفُ وَالْيَاءُ، الْبِدَايَةُ وَالنِّهَايَةُ. أَنَا أُعْطِي الْعَطْشَانَ مِنْ يَنْبُوعِ مَاءِ الْحَيَاةِ مَجَّاناً.
الحياه
6 ثم قال: «قد تم. أنا الألف والياء (البداية والنهاية). أنا أسقي العطشان من ينبوع ماء الحياة مجانا.
السارة
6 وقال لي: «تم كل شيء! أنا الألف والياء، البداءة والنهاية. أنا أعطي العطشان من ينبوع ماء الحياة مجانا.
اليسوعية
6 وقال لي: (( قضي الأمر. أنا الألف والياء, البداية والنهاية. إني سأعطي العطشان من ينبوع ماء الحياة مجانا.
المشتركة
رؤ-21-6: وقالَ لي: ((تَمَّ كُلُّ شيءٍ! أنا الألِفُ والياءُ، البَداءَةُ والنِّهايَةُ. أنا أُعطي العَطشانَ مِنْ يَنبوعِ ماءِ الحياةِ مَجّانًا.
البولسية
رؤ-21-6: وقالَ لي أَيضًا: "لقَد تَمَّ! أَنا الأَلِفُ والياء، أَلَمبدَأُ والغايَة؛ أَنا أُعْطي العَطشانَ مِن يَنبوعِ ماءِ الحياةِ مَجَّانًا.
الكاثوليكية
رؤ-21-6: وقالَ لي: (( قُضِيَ الأَمْر. أَنا الأَلِفُ والياء, البِدايَةُ والنِّهايَة. إِنِّي سأُعْطي العَطْشانَ مِن يَنْبوعِ ماءِ الحَياةِ مَجَّانًا.
وكلهم بهم الالف والياء البداية والنهاية
التراجم الانجليزي وبعض اللغات الاخري
Rev 21:6
(ASV) And he said unto me, They are come to pass. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
(BBE) And he said to me, It is done. I am the First and the Last, the start and the end. I will freely give of the fountain of the water of life to him who is in need.
(Bishops) And he sayde vnto me, it is done, I am Alpha and Omega, the begynnyng and the ende: I wyll geue to hym that is a thirst of the well of the water of lyfe freely.
(CEV) Everything is finished! I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will freely give water from the life-giving fountain to everyone who is thirsty.
(Darby) And he said to me, It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to him that thirsts of the fountain of the water of life freely.
(EMTV) And He said to me, " I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give from the spring of the water of life freely to him that is thirsty.
(ESV) And he said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment.
(FDB) Et il me dit: C'est fait. Moi, je suis l'alpha et l'oméga, le commencement et la fin. A celui qui a soif, je donnerai, moi, gratuitement, de la fontaine de l'eau de la vie.
(FLS) Et il me dit: C'est fait! Je suis l'alpha et l'oméga, le commencement et la fin. A celui qui a soif je donnerai de la source de l'eau de la vie, gratuitement.
(Geneva) And he said vnto me, It is done, I am Alpha & Omega, the beginning and the ende. I wil giue to him that is a thirst, of the wel of the water of life freely.
(GLB) Und er sprach zu mir: Es ist geschehen. Ich bin das A und das O, der Anfang und das Ende. Ich will den Durstigen geben von dem Brunnen des lebendigen Wassers umsonst.
(GNB) And he said, "It is done! I am the first and the last, the beginning and the end. To anyone who is thirsty I will give the right to drink from the spring of the water of life without paying for it.
(GW) He said to me, "It has happened! I am the A and the Z, the beginning and the end. I will give a drink from the fountain filled with the water of life to anyone who is thirsty. It won't cost anything.
(HNT) ויאמר אלי היה נהיתה אני האלף והתו הראש והסוף אני אתן לצמא ממעין מים חיים חנם׃
(ISV) Then he said to me, "It has happened! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will freely give a drink from the spring of the water of life to the one who is thirsty.
(KJV) And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
(KJVA) And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
(MKJV) And He said to me, It is done. I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who thirsts I will give of the fountain of the Water of Life freely.
(Murdock) And he said to me: I am Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Completion: to him who thirsteth, will I give of the fountain of living water, gratis.
(RV) And he said unto me, They are come to pass. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
(Vulgate) et dixit mihi factum est ego sum Alpha et Omega initium et finis ego sitienti dabo de fonte aquae vivae gratis
(WNT) He also said, "They have now been fulfilled. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To those who are thirsty I will give the privilege of drinking from the well of the Water of Life without payment.
(YLT) and He said to me, `It hath been done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End; I, to him who is thirsting, will give of the fountain of the water of the life freely;
وكلهم بهم الالف والياء البداية والنهاية
النسخ اليوناني
(GNT) καὶ εἶπέ μοι· γέγοναν. ἐγώ τὸ Α καὶ τὸ Ω, ἡ ἀρχὴ καὶ τὸ τέλος. ἐγὼ τῷ διψῶντι δώσω ἐκ τῆς πηγῆς τοῦ ὕδατος τῆς ζωῆς δωρεάν.
(GNT-TR) και ειπεν μοι γεγονεν εγω ειμι το α και το ω η αρχη και το τελος εγω τω διψωντι δωσω εκ της πηγης του υδατος της ζωης δωρεαν
(GNT-V) και Bειπε TSAειπεν μοι Aγεγοναν Bγεγονα TSγεγονεν TSAεγω Bεγω TSειμι Aειμι το BAαλφα TSα και το ω η αρχη και το τελος εγω τω διψωντι δωσω εκ της πηγης του υδατος της ζωης δωρεαν
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek NT: Tischendorf 8th Ed. with
Diacritics................................................................................
καί
λέγω ἐγώ γίνομαι ἐγώ ὁ Α καί ὁ Ω ὁ ἀρχή
καί ὁ τέλος ἐγώ ὁ διψάω δίδωμι αὐτός
ἐκ ὁ πηγή ὁ ὕδωρ ὁ ζωή
δωρεάν................................................................................
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox
Church................................................................................
καὶ
εἶπέ μοι· Γέγονεν. ἐγώ τὸ Α καὶ τὸ Ω,
ἡ ἀρχὴ καὶ τὸ τέλος. ἐγὼ τῷ διψῶντι
δώσω ἐκ τῆς πηγῆς τοῦ ὕδατος τῆς ζωῆς
δωρεάν.................................................................................
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek NT: Stephanus Textus Receptus (1550, with
accents)................................................................................
καὶ
εἶπέν μοι γέγονεν ἐγώ εἰμι τὸ Α καὶ
τὸ Ω ἡ ἀρχὴ καὶ τὸ τέλος ἐγὼ τῷ
διψῶντι δώσω ἐκ τῆς πηγῆς τοῦ ὕδατος
τῆς ζωῆς
δωρεάν................................................................................
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek NT: Westcott/Hort with
Diacritics................................................................................
καὶ
εἷπεν μοι, Γέγοναν. ἐγὼ τὸ Ἄλφα καὶ
τὸ Ὦ, ἡ ἀρχὴ καὶ τὸ τέλος. ἐγὼ τῷ
διψῶντι δώσω ἐκ τῆς πηγῆς τοῦ ὕδατος
τῆς ζωῆς
δωρεάν.................................................................................
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek
NT:
Tischendorf
8th
Ed.................................................................................
και
ειπεν μοι γεγοναν εγω το αλφα και το ω
η αρχη και το τελος εγω τω διψωντι δωσω
αυτω εκ της πηγης του υδατος της ζωης
δωρεαν................................................................................
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek
NT:
Byzantine/Majority
Text
(2000)................................................................................
και
ειπεν μοι γεγονα [εγω] το αλφα και το ω
η αρχη και το τελος εγω τω διψωντι δωσω
εκ της πηγης του υδατος της ζωης
δωρεαν................................................................................
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek
NT:
Textus
Receptus
(1550)
................................................................................
και
ειπεν μοι γεγονεν εγω ειμι το α και το
ω η αρχη και το τελος εγω τω διψωντι δωσω
εκ της πηγης του υδατος της ζωης δωρεαν
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ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek
NT:
Textus
Receptus
(1894)................................................................................
και
ειπεν μοι γεγονεν εγω ειμι το α και το
ω η αρχη και το τελος εγω τω διψωντι δωσω
εκ της πηγης του υδατος της ζωης
δωρεαν................................................................................
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek
NT:
Westcott/Hort................................................................................
και
ειπεν μοι γεγοναν εγω το αλφα και το ω
η αρχη και το τελος εγω τω διψωντι δωσω
εκ της πηγης του υδατος της ζωης
δωρεαν................................................................................
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 21:6 Greek
NT:
Westcott/Hort,
UBS4
variants................................................................................
και
ειπεν μοι γεγοναν εγω {VAR2:
[ειμι] } το αλφα και το ω η αρχη και το
τελος εγω τω διψωντι δωσω εκ της πηγης
του υδατος της ζωης δωρεαν
وكلهم الالف والياء البداية والنهاية
5) سفر رؤيا يوحنا اللاهوتي 21: 6
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ثُمَّ قَالَ لِي: «قَدْ تَمَّ! أَنَا هُوَ الأَلِفُ وَالْيَاءُ، الْبِدَايَةُ وَالنِّهَايَةُ. أَنَا أُعْطِي الْعَطْشَانَ مِنْ يَنْبُوعِ مَاءِ الْحَيَاةِ مَجَّانًا. |
και
ειπεν μοι γεγοναν εγω το αλφα και το ω
η αρχη και το τελος εγω τω διψωντι δωσω
εκ της πηγης του υδατος της ζωης δωρεαν
6 And he said to me: It is done; I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him that thirsts, I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely.
الفاتيكانية
والاسكندرية
وايضا
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21: 6 And he said to me,. I am Alpha and Tau, the beginning and the end. I will freely give of the fountain of the living water to him who is thirsty.
وايضا الفولجاتا اللاتينية التي تعود للقرن الرابع الميلادي للقديس جيروم
وترجمتها المعتمدة
Latin Vulgate
The complete Latin Vulgate as written by St. Jeromes
الاصحاح الحادي والعشرين عدد 6
القديس ارينيؤس
Chapter XXXV.—He contends that these testimonies already alleged cannot be understood allegorically of celestial blessings, but that they shall have their fulfilment after the coming of Antichrist, and the resurrection, in the terrestrial Jerusalem. To the former prophecies he subjoins others drawn from Isaiah, Jeremiah, and the Apocalypse of John.
For as it is God truly who raises up man, so also does man truly rise from the dead, and not allegorically, as I have shown repeatedly. And as he rises actually, so also shall he be actually disciplined beforehand for incorruption, and shall go forwards and flourish in the times of the kingdom, in order that he may be capable of receiving the glory of the Father. Then, when all things are made new, he shall truly dwell in the city of God. For it is said, “He that sitteth on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And the Lord says, Write all this; for these words are faithful and true. And He said to me, They are done.”47834783 Rev. xxi. 5, 6. And this is the truth of the matter.
Volume 1
القديس تيتان
اقتباس نصي
120-180
Chapter XVI.—Gnostic Exposition of the Decalogue
The sensible types of these, then, are the sounds we pronounce. Thus the Lord Himself is called “Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,”34623462 Rev. xxi. 6. “by whom all things were made, and without whom not even one thing was made.”34633463 John i. 3. God’s resting is not, then, as some conceive, that God ceased from doing.
Volume 2
القديس ترتليان
160-220
ANF03. Latin Christianity: Its Founder, Tertullian
Chapter V.—Marcus and Colarbasus
After these there were not wanting a Marcus and a Colarbasus, composing a novel heresy out of the Greek alphabet. For they affirm that without those letters truth cannot be found; nay more, that in those letters the whole plenitude and perfection of truth is comprised; for this was why Christ said, “I am the Alpha and the Omega.”83938393 See Rev. i. 7; xxi. 6; xxii. 13. In fact, they say that Jesus Christ descended,83948394 Denique Jesum Christum descendisse. So Oehler, who does not notice any conjectural emendation, or various reading, of the words. If correct, his reading would refer to the views of a twofold Jesus Christ—a real and a phantasmal one—held by docetic Gnostics, or to such views as Valentine’s, in whose system, so far as it is ascertainable from the confused and discrepant account of it, there would appear to have been one Æon called Christ, another called Jesus, and a human person called Jesus and Christ, with whom the true Jesus associated Himself. Some such jumble of ideas the two heretics now under review would seem to have held, if Oehler’s be the true reading. But the difficulties are somewhat lessened if we accept the very simple emendation which naturally suggests itself, and which, I see, Semler has proposed and Routh inclines to receive, “in Jesum Christum descendisse,” i.e. “that Christ descended on Jesus.” that is, that the dove came down on Jesus;83958395 See Matt. iii. 13–17; Mark i. 9–11; Luke iii. 21–22; John i. 29–34. and, since the dove is styled by the Greek name περιστερά —(peristera), it has in itself this number DCCCI
Volume 3
القديس كبريان
Died 258
ANF05. Fathers of the Third Century: Hippolytus, Cyprian, Caius, Novatian, Appendix
Testimonies.
1. That Christ is the First-born, and that He is the Wisdom of God, by whom all things were made.
In the Apocalypse too: “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto Him that is thirsting from the fountain of the water of life freely.”39363936 Rev. xxi. 6. That He also is both the wisdom and the power of God, Paul proves in his first Epistle to the Corinthians. “Because the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom
Volume 5
القديس كبريان
Cyprian
ANF05. Fathers of the Third Century: Hippolytus, Cyprian, Caius, Novatian, Appendix
6. That Christ is God.
Also in the Apocalypse: “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end: I will give to him that is athirst, of the fountain of living water freely. He that overcometh shall possess these things, and their inheritance; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.”3979
volume 5
وايضا يقول القديس كبريان
ANF05. Fathers of the Third Century: Hippolytus, Cyprian, Caius, Novatian, Appendix
100. That the grace of God ought to be without price.
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to him that thirsteth from the fountain of the water of life freely. He who shall overcome shall possess these things, and their inheritance; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.”
Volume 5
وايضا يقول
Also in the Apocalypse: “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to him that thirsteth from the fountain of the water of life freely. He who shall overcome shall possess these things, and their inheritance; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son
Volume 5
وايضا الاصحاح 21
21: 3 و سمعت صوتا عظيما من السماء قائلا هوذا مسكن الله مع الناس و هو سيسكن معهم و هم يكونون له شعبا و الله نفسه يكون معهم الها لهم
21: 4 و سيمسح الله كل دمعة من عيونهم و الموت لا يكون فيما بعد و لا يكون حزن و لا صراخ و لا وجع فيما بعد لان الامور الاولى قد مضت
21: 5 و قال الجالس على العرش ها انا اصنع كل شيء جديدا و قال لي اكتب فان هذه الاقوال صادقة و امينة
21: 6 ثم قال لي قد تم انا هو الالف و الياء البداية و النهاية انا اعطي العطشان من ينبوع ماء الحياة مجانا
21: 7 من يغلب يرث كل شيء و اكون له الها و هو يكون لي ابنا
وتسلسل الكلام يوضح لنا الوهيته وايضا الوحدانية لان
وبهذا يكون الجالس علي العرش هو الذي يمسح عيونهم وهو يكلم يوحنا ويقول عن نفسه الالف والياء البداية والنهاية وهو المسيح وهو يقول عن نفسه نصا هو الاله
اذا كان الله كائن مختلف عن المسيح والمسيح هو الذي يتكلم مع يوحنا فقد قييل في الرؤيا
1: 4 يوحنا الى السبع الكنائس التي في اسيا نعمة لكم و سلام من الكائن و الذي كان و الذي ياتي و من السبعة الارواح التي امام عرشه
1: 5 و من يسوع المسيح الشاهد الامين البكر من الاموات و رئيس ملوك الارض الذي احبنا و قد غسلنا من خطايانا بدمه
5: 6 و رايت فاذا في وسط العرش و الحيوانات الاربعة و في وسط الشيوخ خروف قائم كانه مذبوح له سبعة قرون و سبع اعين هي سبعة ارواح الله المرسلة الى كل الارض
5: 7 فاتى و اخذ السفر من يمين الجالس على العرش
6: 16 و هم يقولون للجبال و الصخور اسقطي علينا و اخفينا عن وجه الجالس على العرش و عن غضب الخروف
واوضح ان من يحاول يفسر هذه الاعداد بفرض ان هناك كائنين الله والخرف والله هو الجلس علي العرش بمعني حرفي سيجد نفسه في مشكله كبري لانه سيجد المسيح هو ايضا جالس علي العرش وهو القائم امام العرش وهو الذي يتكلم مع يوحنا والتفسري الوحيد انه اله واحد و صورة الله الغير منظور هو المسيح وصفته الخروف المذبوح والعرش هو شئ رمزي مش مادي وهو رمز للسلطان وبهاذا ارد علي من حاول اثبات تحريف فقط اعتماد علي ان الله هو الجالس علي العرش وليس السيد المسيح فقد اخطا بشده
والمجد لله دائما