هل العدد الذي يقول خير لي ان اموت من ان يعطل احد افتخاري ناقص ؟ 1 كورنثوس 9: 15

 

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الشبهة 

 

الرد

 

الحقيقه تعليق الكاثوليكية ايضا غير دقيق في هذا العدد وايضا هي خالفت الترتيب الواضح لكلمات العدد حسب النص اليوناني التقليدي ولتبعت النص النقدي في الترتيب الذي يجعل المعني ناقص 

ولهذا سارد علي العدد من نقطتين اولا اصالته وعدم وجود ضياع في اي مقطع وثانيا هل كلام معلمنا بولس الرسول في هذا العدد ناقص 

اصالة العدد

يوجد خلاف علي ترتيب وكلمة لن التي اتت في النص النقدي  

التراجم المختلفة 

التراجم العربي

اولا التي كتبت الترتيب الصحيح ولم تكتب لن 

فانديك

15 أَمَّا أَنَا فَلَمْ أَسْتَعْمِلْ شَيْئاً مِنْ هَذَا وَلاَ كَتَبْتُ هَذَا لِكَيْ يَصِيرَ فِيَّ هَكَذَا. لأَنَّهُ خَيْرٌ لِي أَنْ أَمُوتَ مِنْ أَنْ يُعَطِّلَ أَحَدٌ فَخْرِي.

 

الحياة 

15 على أني لم أستعمل أيا من هذه الحقوق. وما كتبت هذا الآن لأحظى بشيء. فإني أفضل الموت على أن يعطل أحد فخري.

 

المشتركة

15 أما أنا، فما استعملت أي حق من هذه الحقوق، ولا أنا أكتب هذا الآن لأطالب بشيء منها. فأنا أفضل أن أموت على أن يحرمني أحد من هذا الفخر.

 

التي كتبت الترتيب النقدي وكتبت لن

اليسوعية

15 أما أنا فلم أستعمل أي حق من هذه الحقوق، ولم أكتب هذا لأعامل هذه المعاملة. فالموت أفضل لي من أن. مفخرتي هذه لن ينتزعها أحد.

 

الكاثوليكية

1كور-9-15: أَمَّا أَنا فلَم أَستَعمِلْ أَيَّ حَقٍّ مِن هذِه الحُقوق، ولَم أَكتُبْ هذا لأَعامَلَ هذه المُعامَلَة. فالمَوتُ أَفضَلُ لي مِن أَن.00 مَفخَرَتي هذه لن يَنتَزِعَها أَحد.

 

التراجم الانجليزي

التي لم تكتب لن  

1 Corinthians 9:15

 

(Murdock)  But I have used none of these things: and I write not, that it may be so done to me; for it would be better for me to actually die, than that any one should make void my glorying. 

 

(ALT)  But I have used none of these [things]. Now I did not write these [things] so that it should become in this way in my [case], for [it is] good for me rather to die than that anyone makes my [grounds for] boosting empty. 

 

(Phillips)  15 But I have never used any of these privileges, nor am I writing now to suggest that I should be given them. Indeed I would rather die than have anyone make this boast of mine an empty one! 

 

(ACV)  But I have used none of these things, and I did not write these things so that it should be done to me this way. For it is good for me rather to die, than that any man should make my boasting empty. 

 

(AKJ)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done to me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.

 

(ALTNT)  But _I_ have used none of these [things]. Now I did not write these [things] so that it should become in this way in my [case], for [it is] good for me rather to die than that anyone makes my [grounds for] boosting empty. 

 

(AUV-NT)  But I have not availed myself of any of these rights.  And I am not writing this so that it would be done in my case,  for I would rather die than have anyone make my boast  [i.e.,  of preaching without financial support]  an empty one. 

 

(ASV)  But I have used none of these things: and I write not these things that it may be so done in my case; for it were good for me rather to die, than that any man should make my glorifying void. 

 

(BBE)  But I have not made use of any of these things: and I am not writing this in the hope that it may be so for me: for it would be better for me to undergo death, than for any man to make this pride of mine of no effect. 

 

(VW)  But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so with me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my exulting void. 

 

(Bishops)  But I haue vsed none of these thinges. Neuerthelesse, I wrote not these thinges, that it shoulde be so done vnto me: For it were better for me to die, then that any man should make my reioycing vayne. 

 

(CENT)  But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me. I would rather die than have anyone deprive me of my ground for boasting. 

 

(CEV)  But I have never used these privileges of mine, and I am not writing this because I want to start now. I would rather die than have someone rob me of the right to take pride in this. 

 

(CLV) Yet I do not use any of these things. Now I do not write these things that it may be becoming thus with me, for it is my ideal rather to be dying, than that anyone shall be making my boast void."

 

(Mace)  but I have not made use of these advantages. neither have I writ this to obtain such maintenance: for I had rather die for want, than be deprived of such matter of glorying. 

 

(Darby)  But *I* have used none of these things. Now I have not written these things that it should be thus in my case; for it were good for me rather to die than that any one should make vain my boast. 

 

(DIA)  I but not have used not one of these things. Not I did write and these things, that thus it may be done to me; well for to me rather to die, than the boasting of me that any one should make void. 

 

(DRB)  But I have used none of these things. Neither have I written these things, that they should be so done unto me: for it is good for me to die rather than that any man should make my glory void. 

 

(EMTV)  But I used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should become thus for me; for it is better for me rather to die than that anyone should make my boasting void. 

 

(ESV)  But I have made no use of any of these rights,  nor am I writing these things to secure any such provision.  For I would rather die than have anyone deprive me of my ground for boasting.

 

(ERV)  But I have not used any of these rights, and I am not trying to get anything from you. That is not my purpose for writing this. I would rather die than to have someone take away what for me is a great source of pride. 

 

(Etheridge)  But I am not used in one of these; nor on this account have I thus written, that so it should be done unto me: for it were better for me that dying I should die, than that any man my glorying should make void. 

 

(EVID)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done to me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(Geneva)  But I haue vsed none of these things: neither wrote I these things, that it should be so done vnto me: for it were better for me to die, then that any man should make my reioycing vaine. 

 

(GLB)  Ich aber habe der keines gebraucht. Ich schreibe auch nicht darum davon, daß es mit mir also sollte gehalten werden. Es wäre mir lieber, ich stürbe, denn daß mir jemand meinen Ruhm sollte zunichte machen. 

 

(GDBY_NT) But I have used none of these things. But I have not written these things that it may be so in me: for it is good for me rather to die than that any one shall make void my boasting.

 

(GSB)  Ich aber habe davon keinerlei Gebrauch gemacht; ich habe auch solches nicht darum geschrieben, damit es mit mir so gehalten werde. Viel lieber wollte ich sterben, als daß mir jemand meinen Ruhm zunichte machte! 

 

(GW)  I haven't used any of these rights, and I haven't written this in order to use them now. I would rather die than have anyone turn my bragging into meaningless words. 

 

(HCSB-r)  But I have used none of these rights, and I have not written this to make it happen that way for me. For it would be better for me to die than for anyone to deprive me of my boast! 

 

(HNV)  But I have used none of these things, and I don't write these things that it may be done so in my case; for I would rather die, than that anyone should make my boasting void. 

 

(csb)  But I have used none of these rights, and I have not written this to make it happen that way for me. For it would be better for me to die than for anyone to deprive me of my boast! 

 

(IAV NC)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(IAV) But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.

 

(ISRAV)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(ISV)  But I have not used any of these rights, and I'm not writing this so that they may be applied in my case. I would rather die than let anyone deprive me of my reason for boasting. 

 

(JST)  But I have used none of these things;  neither have I written these things,  that it should be so done unto me;  for it were better for me to die,  than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(JOSMTH)  But I have used none of these things; neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me; for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(KJ2000)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my boasting void. 

 

(KJVCNT) But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.

 

(KJV+TVM)  ButG1161 IG1473 have usedG5530 [G5662] noneG3762 of these thingsG5130:G1161 neitherG3756 have I writtenG1125 [G5656] these thingsG5023, thatG2443 it should beG1096 soG3779 doneG1096 [G5638] untoG1722 meG1698: forG1063 it were betterG3123 for meG3427 to dieG599 [G5629] G2570, thanG2228 thatG2443 any manG5100 should makeG2758 myG3450 gloryingG2745 voidG2758 [G5661].

 

(KJCNT)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(KJV)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(KJV-Clar)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(KJV+)  ButG1161 IG1473 have usedG5530 noneG3762 of these things:G5130 neitherG1161 G3756 have I writtenG1125 these things,G5023 thatG2443 it should be soG3779 doneG1096 untoG1722 me:G1698 forG1063 it were betterG2570 for meG3427 to(G3123) die,G599 thanG2228 thatG2443 any manG5100 should make my glorying void.G2758 G3450 G2745 

 

(KJV-1611)  But I haue vsed none of these things. Neither haue I written these things, that it should bee so done vnto me: for it were better for me to die, then that any man should make my glorying voyd. 

 

(KJV21)  But I have used none of these things; neither have I written, that these things should be so done unto me. For it would be better for me to die than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(KJVA)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(LBP)  But I have used none of these privileges: neither have I written these things that it should be so done to me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should declare my pride in my teaching worthless. 

 

(LEB)  But I have not made use of any of these rights. And I am not writing these things in order that it may be thus with me. For it would be better to me rather to die than for anyone to deprive me of my reason for boasting. 

 

(LitNT)  BUT I NONE USED OF THESE THINGS. NOW I DID NOT WRITE THESE THINGS THAT THUS IT SHOULD BE WITH ME; [IT WERE] GOOD FOR FOR ME RATHER TO DIE, THAN MY BOASTING THAT ANYONE SHOULD MAKE VOID. 

 

(LITV)  But I have not used one of these. And I do not write these things that it be so with me. For it is good to me rather to die than that anyone nullify my glorying. 

 

(LONT)  But I have used none of these privileges; neither have I written these things that it should be done to me: for it were good for me rather to die, than that any one should make my boasting void. 

 

(MKJV)  But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it is good for me rather to die than that anyone nullify my glorying. 

 

(Moffatt NT) Only, I have not availed myself of any of these rights, and I am not writing in order to secure any such provision for myself. I would die sooner than let anyone deprive me of this, my source of pride.

 

(nas) But I have used (332) none of these things. And I am not writing these things so that it will be done so in my case; for it would be better for me to die than have any man make my (333) boast an empty one.

 

(NCV)  But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this now to get anything from you. I would rather die than to have my reason for bragging taken away. 

 

(NIVUK)  But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me. I would rather die than have anyone deprive me of this boast. 

 

(NLV)  I have not used any of these things. I am not writing now to get anything. I would rather die than lose the joy of preaching to you without you paying me. 

 

(Noyes NT)  But I have used no right of this kind; nor have I written thus that anything of this kind should be done for me; for it were better for me to die, than that any one should take from me what I glory in. 

 

(OrthJBC)  But I  have not used any of these privileges; I did not write these things that it might be so with me; for it is better for me rather to die than that someone deprive me of my kavod [in Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach--Phil.1:21). 

 

(SRB)  Men jag har inte gjort bruk av n?got s?dant, och jag skriver inte detta f?r att jag skall f? n?gon. Jag ville hellre vara d?d, ?n att n?gon skulle f? ta min ber?mmelse ifr?n mig. 

 

(Murdock R)  But I have used none of these things: and I write not, that it may be so done to me; for it would be better for me to actually die, than that any one should make void my glorying. 

 

(RNKJV)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(RV)  But I have used none of these things: and I write not these things that it may be so done in my case: for it were good for me rather to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(RYLT-NT) And I have used none of these things; neither did I write these things that it may be so done in my case, for it is good for me rather to die, than that any one may make my glorying void;

 

(TMB)  But I have used none of these things; neither have I written, that these things should be so done unto me. For it would be better for me to die than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(TRC) But I have used none of these things. Neither wrote I these things that it should be so done unto me.(For) It were better for me to die than any man should take this rejoicing from me.

 

(UPDV)  But I have used none of these things: and I do not write these things that it may be so done in my case; for [it was] good for me rather to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(Webster)  But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done to me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 

 

(Wesley's)  But I have used none of these things; nor have I written thus, that it might be done so unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make this my glorying void.

 

(WESNT)  But I have used none of these things; nor have I written thus, that it might be done so unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make this my glorying void. 

 

(WNT)  But I, for my part, have not used, and do not use, my full rights in any of these things. Nor do I now write with that object so far as I myself am concerned, for I would rather die than have anybody make this boast of mine an empty one. 

 

(WORNT)  But I have availed myself of none of these things. Nor have I written these things, that it might be so done as to me: for it were better for me to die, than that any one should make this my glorying void. 

 

(WTNT) But I have used none of these things.  Neither wrote I these things that it should be so done unto me. It were better for me to die than any man should take this rejoicing from me.

 

(Wycliffe) But Y vside noon of these thingis; sotheli Y wroot not these thingis, that tho be don so in me; for it is good `to me rather to die, than that ony man `auoyde my glorie.

 

(WycliffeNT)  But Y vside noon of these thingis; sotheli Y wroot not these thingis, that tho be don so in me; for it is good `to me rather to die, than that ony man `auoyde my glorie. 

 

(YLT)  And I have used none of these things; neither did I write these things that it may be so done in my case, for it is good for me rather to die, than that any one may make my glorying void; 

 

التي كتبت لا ووضعت ترتيب مختلف 

 

(GNB)  But I haven't made use of any of these rights, nor am I writing this now in order to claim such rights for myself. I would rather die first! Nobody is going to turn my rightful boast into empty words! 

 

(NET.)  But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing these things so that something will be done for me. In fact, it would be better for me to die than — no one will deprive me of my reason for boasting! 

 

(NAB-A)  I have not used any of these rights, however, nor do I write this that it be done so in my case. I would rather die. Certainly no one is going to nullify my boast. 

 

(nrs) But I have made no use of any of these rights, nor am I writing this so that they may be applied in my case. Indeed, I would rather die than that—no one will deprive me of my ground for boasting!

 

(NWT)  But I have not made use of a single one of these  [provisions].  Indeed,  I have not written these things that it should become so in my case,  for it would be finer for me to die than-no man is going to make my reason for boasting void! 

 

(WMSNT)  But I myself have never used any of these rights. And I am not writing this just to make it so in my case, for I had rather die than do that. No one shall rob me of this ground of boasting. 

واترك الحكم للقارئ بمقارنت الترجمات وتنوعها وخلفياتها

 

النصوص اليوناني 

التي كتبت ( كايخيما موي ان تيس كينوسي ) اي احد ينزع ( او يعطل ) فخري  

 

(GNT)  ἐγὼ δὲ οὐδενὶ ἐχρησάμην τούτωνΟὐκ γραψα δὲ ταῦτα να οτω γένηται ἐν ἐμοί· καλὸν γάρ μοι μᾶλλον ἀποθανεῖν  τὸ καύχημά μου να τις κενώσῃ. 

 

 

(ABP+)  But IG1473 G1161 [2noneG3762 1used]G5530 of these things .G3778 [2I did notG3756 3writeG1125 1But]G1161 these things ,G3778 thatG2443 thusG3779 it should happenG1096 withG1722 me.G1473 For it is goodG2570 G1063 for meG1473 ratherG3123 to dieG599 thanG2228 G3588 [4my boastingG2745 G1473 1thatG2443 2anyoneG5100 3should nullify].G2758 

 

(ABP-G+)  εγω δεG1473 G1161 ουδενιG3762 εχρησαμηνG5530 τουτωνG3778 ουκG3756 εγραψαG1125 δεG1161 ταυταG3778 ιναG2443 ουτωG3779 γενηταιG1096 ενG1722 εμοιG1473 καλον γαρG2570 G1063 μοιG1473 μαλλονG3123 αποθανεινG599 ηG2228 τοG3588 καυχημα μουG2745 G1473 ιναG2443 τιςG5100 κενωσηG2758 

 

(GNT-TR)  εγω δε ουδενι εχρησαμην τουτων ουκ εγραψα δε ταυτα ινα ουτως γενηται εν εμοι καλον γαρ μοι μαλλον αποθανειν η το καυχημα μου ινα τις κενωση 

 

(SNT)  εγω δε ουδενι εχρησαμην τουτων ουκ εγραψα δε ταυτα ινα ουτως γενηται εν εμοι καλον γαρ μοι μαλλον αποθανειν η το καυχημα μου ινα τις κενωση

 

(GNT-V)  εγω δε Aου Aκεχρημαι ουδενι TSBεχρησαμην τουτων ουκ εγραψα δε ταυτα ινα ουτως γενηται εν εμοι καλον γαρ μοι μαλλον αποθανειν η το καυχημα μου Aουδεις Aκενωσει TSBινα TSBτις TSBκενωση 

 

(G-NT-TR (Steph)+)  εγω 1473 P-1NS  δε But 1161 CONJ  ουδενι none 3762 A-DSN  εχρησαμην have used 5530 V-ADI-1S  τουτων of these things 5130 D-GPN  ουκ  3756 PRT-N  εγραψα have I written 1125 V-AAI-1S  δε neither 1161 CONJ  ταυτα these things 5023 D-APN  ινα that 2443 CONJ  ουτως it should be so 3779 ADV  γενηται done 1096 V-2ADS-3S  εν unto 1722 PREP  εμοι me, 1698 P-1DS  καλον better 2570 A-NSN  γαρ for 1063 CONJ  μοι for me 3427 P-1DS  μαλλον to 3123 ADV  αποθανειν die 599 V-2AAN  η than 2228 PRT  το  3588 T-ASN  καυχημα  2745 N-ASN  μου should make my glorying void 3450 P-1GS  ινα that 2443 CONJ  τις any man 5100 X-NSM  κενωση should make my glorying void. 2758 V-AAS-3S   

 

ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 9:15 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Church
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ἐγὼ δὲ οὐδενὶ ἐχρησάμην τούτων. Οὐκ ἔγραψα δὲ ταῦτα ἵνα οὕτω γένηται ἐν ἐμοί· καλὸν γάρ μοι μᾶλλον ἀποθανεῖν ἤ τὸ καύχημά μου ἵνα τις κενώσῃ.
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ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 9:15 Greek NT: Stephanus Textus Receptus (1550, with accents)
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ἐγὼ δὲ οὐδενὶ ἐχρησάμην τούτων οὐκ ἔγραψα δὲ ταῦτα ἵνα οὕτως γένηται ἐν ἐμοί· καλὸν γάρ μοι μᾶλλον ἀποθανεῖν ἤ τὸ καύχημά μου ἵνα τις κενώσῃ


egō de oudeni echrēsamēn toutōn ouk egrapsa de tauta ina outōs genētai en emoi kalon gar moi mallon apothanein ē to kauchēma mou ina tis kenōsē

 

ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 9:15 Greek NT: Byzantine/Majority Text (2000)
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εγω δε ουδενι εχρησαμην τουτων ουκ εγραψα δε ταυτα ινα ουτως γενηται εν εμοι καλον γαρ μοι μαλλον αποθανειν η το καυχημα μου ινα τις κενωση
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ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 9:15 Greek NT: Textus Receptus (1550) 
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εγω δε ουδενι εχρησαμην τουτων ουκ εγραψα δε ταυτα ινα ουτως γενηται εν εμοι καλον γαρ μοι μαλλον αποθανειν η το καυχημα μου ινα τις κενωση 
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ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 9:15 Greek NT: Textus Receptus (1894)
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εγω δε ουδενι εχρησαμην τουτων ουκ εγραψα δε ταυτα ινα ουτως γενηται εν εμοι καλον γαρ μοι μαλλον αποθανειν η το καυχημα μου ινα τις κενωση

 

التي كتبت كايخيما موي اويديس كينوسي اي فخري لن ينزعها احد 


ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 9:15 Greek NT: Tischendorf 8th Ed.
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εγω δε ου κεχρημαι ουδενι τουτων ουκ εγραψα δε ταυτα ινα ουτως γενηται εν εμοι καλον γαρ μοι μαλλον αποθανειν η το καυχημα μου ουδεις κενωσει

egō de ou kechrēmai oudeni toutōn ouk egrapsa de tauta ina outōs genētai en emoi kalon gar moi mallon apothanein ē to kauchēma mou oudeis kenōsei

 

ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 9:15 Greek NT: Westcott/Hort
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εγω δε ου κεχρημαι ουδενι τουτων ουκ εγραψα δε ταυτα ινα ουτως γενηται εν εμοι καλον γαρ μοι μαλλον αποθανειν η το καυχημα μου ουδεις κενωσει

فالنسخ اليوناني اتفقت علي تعبير ( لانه خير لي ان اموت من ان يعطل احد فخري  ) هي الاكثر وتمثل التقليدي والاغلبيه 

اما النسختين النقديتين التي بني عليهما بعض النصوص النقددية الاخري هما التين كتبتا ( فالموت أفضل لي من أن. مفخرتي هذه لن ينتزعها أحد ) وهذه النسخه هي السبب في سوء فهم بعض المترجمين 

 

المخطوطات

اولا التي تشهد فخري لن ينزعها  

اولا بردية 

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وهي بالفعل شهاده قوية للنص النقدي في هذا العدد لانها من القرن الثاني 

εγω δε ου κεχρημαι ουδενι τουτων ουκ εγραψα δε ταυτα ινα ουτως γενηται εν εμοι καλον γαρ μοι αποθανειν η μαλλον η το καυχημα μου ουδεις κενωσει

ولكن قد يكون الامر خطا نسخي 

 

السينائية 

في الحقيقه السينائية تشهد للنصين 

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