هل يوجد تحريف في 2 أيام 32 بدليل السبعينية التي قالت اراحهم بدل من حماهم؟ 2 أيام 32: 22
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الشبهة
السبعينية التي يعتمد عليها العهد الجديد تخالف العبري في 2 أيام 32: 22 فالعبري حماهم بينما السبعينية قالت اراحهم. فإما السبعينية صحيحة والعهد القديم محرف اما السبعينية خطأ وبهذا أخطأ العهد الجديد بان يقتبس منها.
الرد
الحقيقة الشبهة ليس لها أصل الا بسبب عدم فهم المشكك للكلمة العبرية التي تحمل المعنيين
أيضا المبدأ الذي يتكلم عنه المشكك هو خطا تماما وأيضا الاختيارين الذين يقدمهما كلاهما خطأ وهذا ما يسمى مغالطة منطقية وهو السؤال الملغم أي يعطيك اختيارين فقط كلاهما خطأ.
فالإجابة باختصار ان السبعينية الترجمة التفسيرية هو فقط توضح معنى وليس تقدم معنى عكسي فالعبري صحيح ولا يوجد تحريف والعهد الجديد اغلب اقتباساته من العبري واغلبهم اتفق العبري مع السبعينية وقلة من السبعينية في الأجزاء التي فسرت بطريقة صحيحة وهذا الجزء أصلا لم يقتبسه العهد الجديد.
أولا من ناحية اصالة العدد في العبري هو مؤكد بكل المخطوطات العبرية القديمة وكل الترجمات القديمة
سفر اخبار الأيام الثاني 32
32 :22 وخلص الرب حزقيا وسكان اورشليم من سنحاريب ملك اشور ومن يد الجميع وحماهم من كل ناحية
والكلمة العبري ونيهاليم וינהלם
وباختصار شديد النصوص العبري والمخطوطات
(Hebrew OT) ויושׁע יהוה את־יחזקיהו ואת ישׁבי ירושׁלם מיד סנחריב מלך־אשׁור ומיד־כל וינהלם מסביב׃
WTT וַיּוֹשַׁע֩ יְהוָ֙ה אֶת־יְחִזְקִיָּ֜הוּ וְאֵ֣ת׀ יֹשְׁבֵ֣י יְרוּשָׁלִַ֗ם מִיַּ֛ד סַנְחֵרִ֥יב מֶֽלֶךְ־אַשּׁ֖וּר וּמִיַּד־כֹּ֑ל וַֽיְנַהֲלֵ֖ם מִסָּבִֽיב׃
UWTT ויושע יהוה את־יחזקיהו ואת ישבי ירושלם מיד סנחריב מלך־אשור ומיד־כל וינהלם מסביב׃
والمخطوطات
Westminster
Leningrad Codex
וַיֹּושַׁע֩
יְהוָ֨ה
אֶת־יְחִזְקִיָּ֜הוּ
וְאֵ֣ת
׀
יֹשְׁבֵ֣י
יְרוּשָׁלִַ֗ם
מִיַּ֛ד
סַנְחֵרִ֥יב
מֶֽלֶךְ־אַשּׁ֖וּר
וּמִיַּד־כֹּ֑ל
וַֽיְנַהֲלֵ֖ם
מִסָּבִֽיב׃
WLC
(Consonants Only)
ויושע
יהוה
את־יחזקיהו
ואת
׀
ישבי
ירושלם
מיד
סנחריב
מלך־אשור
ומיד־כל
וינהלם
מסביב׃
Aleppo
Codex
כב
ויושע
יהוה
את
יחזקיהו
ואת
ישבי
ירושלם
מיד
סנחריב
מלך
אשור--ומיד
כל
וינהלם
מסביב
وصورة مخطوطة لننجراد
وصورة مخطوطة حلب
وأيضا قمران 4Q29
فأصالة النص العبري لا خلاف عليه
ولكن قبل ان ندخل في الترجمات لابد ان ندرس شيء لغوي
2Ch 32:22 ויושׁעH3467 saved יהוהH3068 Thus the LORD אתH853 יחזקיהוH2396 ואתH853 ישׁביH3427 and the inhabitants ירושׁלםH3389 of Jerusalem מידH3027 from the hand סנחריבH5576 of Sennacherib מלךH4428 the king אשׁורH804 of Assyria, ומידH3027 and from the hand כלH3605 of all וינהלםH5095 and guided מסביב׃H5439 them on every side
وكلمة ونيهاليم من ناهال נָהַל هي تعني
H5095
נָהַל
nâhal
naw-hal'
A primitive root; properly to run with a sparkle, that is, flow; hence (transitively) to conduct, and (by inference) to protect, sustain: - carry, feed, guide, lead (gently, on).
Total KJV occurrences: 10
جذر بدائي تعني يجري بتألق أي تدفق وبهذا مؤقتا تعني اجراء وبمعنى حماية ومحافظة وتغذية ويقود لراحة
فالكلمة تحمل معنى يقود حماية وأيضا يقود لراحة
قاموس برون
H5095
נהל
nâhal
BDB Definition:
1) to lead, give rest, lead with care, guide to a watering place or station, cause to rest, bring to a station or place of rest, guide, refresh
1a) (Piel)
1a1) to lead to a watering-place or station and cause to rest there
1a2) to lead or bring to a station or goal
1a3) to lead, guide
1a4) to give rest to
1a5) to refresh (with food)
1b) (Hithpael)
1b1) to lead on
1b2) to journey by stations or stages
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive root
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1312
يقود ليعطي راحة، يقود برعاية، الى مكان به ماء يسبب راحة او الى مكان حماية ....
ونفس الامر يقوله قاموس كلمات الكتاب ويعطي امثلة
H5095
ָנַהל
nāhal: A verb meaning to lead, to guide, to move along. It means to move at a convenient speed and manner befitting travelers and their situations (Gen_33:14; Gen_47:17). It has the sense of guiding people, leading them in an orderly fashion and with great care (Exo_15:13; 2Ch_28:15; Psa_23:2; Psa_31:3 [4]; Isa_40:11; Isa_49:10; Isa_51:18).
فلهذا الكلمة في أصلها يقود الى راحة او يقود الى حماية او يقود الى ماء او يقود الى تغذية
لهذا ترجمة الكلمة في الماضي اراحهم او حماهم او حتى قادهم كلهم صحيح لان الكلمة تحمل كل هذه المعاني
ولهذا تراجم انجليزي للنص العبري كتبت كل هذه المعاني
(ACV) Thus LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all [others], and guided them on every side.
(AKJ) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all other, and guided them on every side.
(AMP) Thus the Lord saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria and from the hand of all his enemies, and He guided them on every side.
(ASV) Thus Jehovah saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side.
(BBE) So the Lord gave Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem salvation from the power of Sennacherib, the king of Assyria, and from all others, giving them rest on every side.
(VW) Thus Jehovah saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side.
(Bishops) And so the Lorde saued Hezekia and the inhabiters of Hierusalem out of the hand of Sennacherib the king of the Assyrians, and from the hande of all other, and mayntayned them on euery side.
(CEV) The LORD rescued Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from Sennacherib and also protected them from other enemies.
(CJB) In this way ADONAI rescued Hizkiyahu and those living in Yerushalayim from Sancheriv the king of Ashur and from everyone, caring for them in every respect.
(CLV) And Yahweh saves Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib king of Asshur, and from the hand of all, and He leads them round about;"
(Darby) And Jehovah saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all, and protected them on every side.
(DRB) And the Lord saved Ezechias and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, out of the hand of Sennacherib king of the Assyrians, and out of the hand of all, and gave them treasures on every side.
(ESV) So the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib king of Assyria and from the hand of all his enemies, and he provided for them on every side.
(ERV) So the LORD saved Hezekiah and the people in Jerusalem from King Sennacherib of Assyria and from all other people. He cared for Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem.
(Geneva) So the Lorde saued Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Ierusalem from the hande of Saneherib King of Asshur, and from the hande of all other, and maintained them on euery side.
(GNB) In this way the LORD rescued King Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from the power of Sennacherib, the emperor of Assyria, and also from their other enemies. He let the people live in peace with all the neighboring countries.
(GW) So the LORD saved Hezekiah and the people living in Jerusalem from King Sennacherib of Assyria and from everyone else. The LORD gave them peace with all their neighbors.
(HCSB-r) So the Lord saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the power of King Sennacherib of Assyria and from the power of all others. He gave them rest on every side.
(HNV) Thus the LORD saved Chizkiyahu and the inhabitants of Yerushalayim from the hand of Sancheriv the king of Ashur, and from the hand of all [others], and guided them on every side.
(csb) So the Lord saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the power of King Sennacherib of Assyria and from the power of all others. He gave them rest on every side.
(IAV) Thus ADONAI saved Hizkiyah-yahu and the inhabitants of Yerushalayim from the hand of Sancheriv the king of Ashur, and from the hand of all other, and guided them on every side.
(ISRAV) Thus ADONAI saved Hizkiyah-yahu and the inhabitants of Yerushalayim from the hand of Sancheriv the king of Ashur, and from the hand of all other, and guided them on every side.
(JST) Thus the Lord saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all other, and guided them on every side.
(JOSMTH) Thus the Lord saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all other, and guided them on every side.
(JPS) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all, and guided them on every side.
(JUB) Thus, the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hands of Sennacherib, the king of Assyria, and from the hands of all others and guided them concerning everything.
(KJ2000) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side.
(KJV) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all other, and guided them on every side.
(Lamsa) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hands of Sennacherib the king of Assyria and from the hand of all of those who invaded their borders.
(LITV) And Jehovah saved Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all; and He guided them on every side.
(MKJV) And Jehovah saved Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side.
(MSG) GOD saved Hezekiah and the citizens of Jerusalem from Sennacherib king of Assyria and everyone else. And he continued to take good care of them.
(nas) So the LORD saved (667) Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria and from the hand of all and guided [297] them on every side.
(NCV) So the Lord saved Hezekiah and the people in Jerusalem from Sennacherib king of Assyria and from all other people. He took care of them on every side.
(NET.) The Lord delivered Hezekiah and the residents of Jerusalem from the power of King Sennacherib of Assyria and the other nations. He made them secure on every side.
(NAB-A) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib, king of Assyria, as from every other power; he gave them rest on every side.
(NIRV) So the Lord saved Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem. He saved them from the power of Sennacherib, the king of Assyria. He also saved them from all of their other enemies. He took care of them on every side.
(NIV) So the LORD saved Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib king of Assyria and from the hand of all others. He took care of them on every side.
(NIVUK) So the LORD saved Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib king of Assyria and from the hand of all others. He took care of them on every side.
(NKJV) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all others, and guided them[e] on every side.
(NLT) That is how the LORD rescued Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from King Sennacherib of Assyria and from all the others who threatened them. So there was peace at last throughout the land.
(NLV) So the Lord saved Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from King Sennacherib of Assyria, and from all others. And He gave them rest on every side.
(nrs) So the Lord saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of King Sennacherib of Assyria and from the hand of all his enemies; he gave them rest [73] on every side.
(NRSV) So the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of King Sennacherib of Assyria and from the hand of all his enemies; he gave them rest on every side.
(NWT) Thus Jehovah saved Hez·e·ki'ah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem out of the hand of Sen·nach'er·ib the king of As·syr'i·a and out of the hand of all others and gave them rest all around.
(RNKJV) Thus YHVH saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all other, and guided them on every side.
(RSVA) So the LORD saved Hezeki'ah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennach'erib king of Assyria and from the hand of all his enemies; and he gave them rest on every side.
(RV) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all other, and guided them on every side.
(TLV) Thus Adonai delivered Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all, and helped them in every way.
(TMB) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side.
(TNIV) So the LORD saved Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib king of Assyria and from the hand of all others. He took care of them on every side.
(TRC) And so the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabiters at Jerusalem out of the hands of Sennaherib king of Assur and of all other, and maintained them on all sides.
(TS2009) Thus יהוה saved Ḥizqiyahu and the inhabitants of Yerushalayim from the hand of Sanḥěriḇ the sovereign of Ashshur, and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side.
(UPDV) Thus Yahweh saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all [others], and he gave them rest on every side.
(WEB) Thus Yahweh saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side.
(WEBA) Thus Yahweh saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side.
(Webster) Thus the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side.
(YLT) And Jehovah saveth Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib king of Asshur, and from the hand of all, and He leadeth them round about;
فرأينا الترجمات التي تترجم النص العبري قدمت معانيه المختلفة اراحهم او حماهم او قادهم ....
فلهذا أصلا السبعينية لم تخطئ في ترجمة الكلمة فعندما قالت اراحهم
2Ch 32:22 καὶ ἔσωσεν κύριος Εζεκιαν καὶ τοὺς κατοικοῦντας ἐν Ιερουσαλημ ἐκ χειρὸς Σενναχηριμ βασιλέως Ασσουρ καὶ ἐκ χειρὸς πάντων καὶ κατέπαυσεν αὐτοὺς κυκλόθεν.
(Greek ABP+) καιG2532 εσωσε κυριοςG4982 G2962 τονG3588 ΕζεκιανG* καιG2532 τουςG3588 κατοικουνταςG2730 ενG1722 ΙερουσαλημG* εκG1537 χειροςG5495 ΣενναχηριβG* βασιλεωςG935 ΑσσουρG* καιG2532 εκG1537 χειροςG5495 παντωνG3956 καιG2532 κατεπαυσενG2664 αυτουςG1473 κυκλοθενG2943
2Ch 32:22 AndG2532 the lord deliveredG4982 G2962 G3588 HezekiahG* andG2532 theG3588 ones dwellingG2730 inG1722 JerusalemG* fromG1537 the handG5495 of SennacheribG* kingG935 of Assyria,G* andG2532 fromG1537 the handG5495 of all,G3956 andG2532 restedG2664 themG1473 round about.G2943
(Brenton) So the Lord delivered Ezekias and the dwellers in Jerusalem out of the hand of Sennacherim King of Assyria, and out of the hand of all his enemies, and gave them rest round about.
بل حتى الفلجاتا قالت اعطاهم كنوز
(Vulgate) salvavitque Dominus Ezechiam et habitatores Hierusalem de manu Sennacherib regis Assyriorum et de manu omnium et praestitit ei quietem per circuitum
And the Lord saved Ezechias and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, out of the hand of Sennacherib king of the Assyrians, and out of the hand of all, and gave them treasures on every side.
فالشبهة كلها ليس لها أصلا الا بسبب عدم فهم او معرفة المشكك الذي غالبا ينقل من بعض الكتابات الغربية النقدية بدون فهم ولا تدقيق
والمجد لله دائما